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Horde/IMP installs

Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 22:21:50 -0500

From: James

To: chuck@horde.org

Subject: Another university using Horde...

Didn't know if you've seen this, but NYU School of Medicine uses Horde:

https://www.med.nyu.edu/horde-2.0/imp/login.php

- James

From: Karl Wyant

To: imp@lists.horde.org

Reply-To: imp@lists.horde.org

Subject: [imp] IMP Past Triumphs & Future Efforts

I have just rejoined the list at my new job. I missed the posts to

the lists for about a month or so. Here is a list of imp

installations that you might find to be interesting from my prior job:

icymail.com

mail.goodyeardealers.com mail.goodyearfarm.com mail.goodyeartruck.com

mail.metlifefinancial.com mail.metfinancial.net mail.metfinancial.org

mail.thermokingdealers.com

mail.nspimembers.org

mail.achcamembers.org

salomonsmith.icymail.com

computerren.icymail.com

mail.agco-dealers.com mail.agcocorpdealers.com

mail.invacareretailers.com

mail.ircmgdistributors.com

mail.lincolndistributors.com

mail.carqueststores.com

mail.volvo-truck.com

mail.go-polaris.com

mail.exmarkdealers.com

For login use

impdemo

password is

hordeimp

Yes, these are really from the companies that they look like.

On Thu, 18 Apr 2002, Chuck Hagenbuch wrote:

Btw, does this mean that Harvard, or part of it, is considering/adopting

IMP?

It does. We actually just rolled it out, and people have begun using it.

We're still working out a few kinks that are probably related to our

environment, such as the spellchecker and imp not communicating properly

(ispell works fine, and is the latest version; not sure what's up here).

Overall, we've had a lot of positive comments. The biggest complaints have

been related to its speed. There have also been a significant number of

requests for Eudora addressbook import options, which right now has no

straightforward solution (they have to be imported to outlook, then

imported from there to Imp).

The speed issue isn't too surprising. We have it running on four Compaq

tru64 boxes, which are also used for imap, pop, and shell logins for

thousands of users. If you'd like to know more about our environment, let

me know.

I'd imagine you would like to be able to mention this on your website,

which I admit would be pretty cool. Unfortunately, I'm not PR-authorized,

and cannot give you permission to mention this on your website, but I am

working closely with somebody who does have this authority, and while we

haven't discussed it specifically, I think we're on the same level in that

we are waiting until the major problems have been addressed. If he's not

thinking the same thoughts, I will mention to him that he should let you

guys make a plug for us on your site, once it's clear that we're sticking

with Imp (which right now is pretty certain, but not 100% certain).

Also btw, I live/work in Somerville, so if you need some consulting as

part of this, let me know. :)

That's good to know, thanks!

--

Scott Kearney

Web Developer

Faculty of Arts and Sciences, Harvard University

http://webmail.colorado.edu/, https://webmail2.alumnos.utfsm.cl/

- Michael M Slusarz

http://mail.umich.edu/, with 31,000 users

- Liam Hoekenga

http://webmail.kingsmeadefarm.com/

- Joe Kellner

Eric Rostetter:

I'll submit:

The Department of Physics, The University of Texas at Austin,

https://mail.ph.utexas.edu/ with about 1000 users, on a Dell

Poweredge 2400 server, 2x600 Mhz, 512MB memory, Raid5 across 6 disks,

Horde/IMP/Turba/gollem/kronolith/nag/sork/jonah.

Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 13:58:36 -0500

From: catherine williams

To: Chuck Hagenbuch

Subject: Fwd: Important change in Yale Web Email Service

congrats! and good news for me, since i won't be forced to use yale's

evil webmail anymore :)

cathy

---------Included Message----------

>Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 12:23:19 -0400

>From: "Lynna Jackson"

>Reply-To: "Web EMail" <web.email@yale.edu>

>To: <Central>

>Subject: Important change in Yale Web Email Service

>

>* 118 FETCH (UID 7576 BODY[1] {1007}

ITS Web Email and IMP Email will switch addresses during the

>morning of August 12th. IMP Email has been under extensive evaluation

>since May 15th and literally hundreds have reported that it is far

>superior to the older ITS Web Email service.

Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 14:51:54 -0400

From: Jon Parise

Subject: Re: [core] we got Yale ...

On Fri, Aug 02, 2002 at 02:08:07PM -0400, Chuck Hagenbuch wrote:


It looks like their medical school has been using it for a while:

https://webmail.med.yale.edu/

From: Joaquim Machado

To: "Horde list (E-mail)" <horde@lists.horde.org>, "Imp-list (E-mail)" <imp@lists.horde.org>

Subject: RE: [horde] Company References for user of Horde/IMP ?

Hi,

We are a National Government Agency of Portugal and we are using Horde 2.0,

Imp 3.0 and Turba 1.0.

We have around 1.000 mailbox's, 8 Mail Servers (Exchange) and 1 Webmail

Server (Apache/SSL).

And you can add us to the list.

From: Derek Au

Screenshot:

https://maila.greenpeace.org/imp3.1_screenshot.png

Cheers,

--

----- Derek Au

-- -- Greenpeace International, IT

-- -- Keizersgracht 176, 1016 DW Amsterdam

----- The Netherlands

From: Daniel Wyss

To: imp@lists.horde.org

Subject: RE: [imp] Help Req. : Sizing a Horde\IMP system for 12,000 users

Speaking from experience combining Sun hardware/Cluster/and Imp/Horde:

I would first separate out your web server(s) from your mail and DB

server(s) especially if you plan on using a secure web server and/or

IMAPS. For this web server, use your best hardware, you may experience

high loads like we did using SSL, so you may also consider purchasing

crypto-cards if you run into this problem. The next (big) step would be

to run a scalable apache server (via Sun Cluster 3.0). This starts

getting pretty expensive, cost of licensing Sun Cluster 3.0 software,

the cost of agents, the cost of the approved architecture, and the cost

of support. Plus you definitely want to get some training if you're

going to run a Sun Cluster. (personally I wouldn't recommend this route

unless you really need HA and/or scalability.) I think option 2 from

Eric's message down below might be the sensible route in your situation.

Background:

We have been running Imp/Horde here at the University of Colorado since

the Summer of 2000 exclusively on Sun hardware. We initially opened it

up to existing students as an alternative option to pine/elm or

imaping/popping. The existing students had the choice to migrate over

from an older mail server to this WebMail system, and all new incoming

students were giving an account to this newer system. That first Fall

semester we started with 5000 user accounts, and today there are 40k. We

started off with (1)E3500 with 6 336MHz processors 2Gb of memory which

served as the mail (IMAP only) and mysql backend. The Front-end web

server was also a E3500 with 6 400MHz processors and 3 Gb of memory.

When we hit about 30k user accounts we started experiencing high load on

both servers. Granted, we do add some load with some in-house tweeks to

the IMP/Horde software for quota and affiliation check, as well as doing

secure IMAPS and SSL. We ended up with a soon to be 6 node V480 Sun

Cluster 3.0 system that is running scalable apache serving the front-end

(running IMP/Horde). For the backend, I ended up writing an agent for

both mysql and uw-imap and this is in a 2 node cluster running (2) V880

(one with 6 ultra-sparc-III 750MHz chips and the other with 8, one has

12 GB and the other has 16GB of memory). It's a screaming system now. I

have had my hands in this since the beginning, so if you want some more

info about what we are doing here and what we have learned, feel free to

contact me.

**

Daniel Wyss

IT PRO, Central and Unix Services

Information Technology Services

University of Colorado, Boulder

3645 Marine St, CB 455

Boulder, CO 80309-0455